{"id":9797,"date":"2024-12-10T18:51:40","date_gmt":"2024-12-10T23:51:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=9797"},"modified":"2024-12-10T20:45:27","modified_gmt":"2024-12-11T01:45:27","slug":"the-retro-mk-ultra-magazine-interview-vol-2-issue-3-kim-fowley-confessions-of-a-rock-n-roll-madman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=9797","title":{"rendered":"The RETRO MK ULTRA Magazine Interview: Vol. 2 Issue # 3 – KIM FOWLEY “CONFESSIONS OF A ROCK N\u2019 ROLL MADMAN”"},"content":{"rendered":"
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interview by Alex Zander<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kim Fowley owns the most impressive resume in rock n\u2019 roll. There is no denying that<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

the man is a living legend. He literally has the Midas touch when it comes to turning art<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

into gold. At sixty-three years, the man wants the women of the world to know he is a<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

sexual dynamo, and when it comes down to an interview he stresses that he is literally<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

the king of filth, sleaze, and perversion.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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Kim Fowley and Alex Zander Hollywood CA 2002<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I met Fowley while in Hollywood in the fall of 2002. I didn\u2019t know what to make of the<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

guy. He ran through a list of rock n\u2019 roll references, claiming to have been a major part<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

of them all that my cynical manner easily passed off as bullshit. That was for about 10<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

minutes when my friends in the industry confirmed that he indeed somehow managed to<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

do everything he claimed. He did invent The Runaways. He did write tunes for KISS,<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alice Cooper, Frank Zappa, Van Halen, Wayne Newton, Steppenwolf, Nirvana, Manfred<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mann, and the list goes on and on. It is truly unbelievable. You know that song, \u201cAlley<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oop?\u201d That was Kim Fowley.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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Alex Zander,  Romell Regulacion of RAZED IN BLACK and Kim Fowley <\/em><\/strong>Hollywood CA 2002<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kim is still a consultant \/ independent contractor and has an open door policy for<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

anyone interested in acquiring his services for product evaluation and presentation to<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

the Hollywood-based music entertainment complex.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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KISS with Fowley: Kim co-wrote two KISS classic songs, \u201cKing of the Night Time World\u201d and \u201cDo You Love Me.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

He currently excels at and offers 15 Professional Entrainment Skills, including:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Consultant, Promotion, Publicist, Speaker, and Actor (Not to mention Singer\/Songwriter,<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Producer, and Sexual Deviant). Fowley is responsible for more gold and platinum<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

records than anyone I\u2019m aware of, and I have a pretty healthy knowledge of the<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

business that I\u2019ve been drafted into. Fowley is a genius and Fowley is a freak, a freak<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

for you dirty girls. In all of our conversations he continues to stress he is willing and able<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

to take on any young filthy moral-less female of the <\/em>speechless.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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MK ULTRA Magazine cover which featured this KIM FOWLEY Interview<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alex Zander:<\/strong> When we made acquaintance it was at the Cleopatra Ten Year Anniversary<\/p>\n\n\n\n

party and I\u2019d like to know, what was it about an event like that brought somebody with<\/p>\n\n\n\n

your track record to a show of that genre?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kim Fowley:<\/strong> I worship the Goth Goddess and Dracula\u2019s daughter, Satan\u2019s sister and<\/p>\n\n\n\n

they all were there and I realized that sexually it would be a real opportunity to connect,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

so I journeyed from the edge of the desert with bodyguard, chauffeur and we got there<\/p>\n\n\n\n

with the sole intent of seducing and corrupting as many women as possible, which we<\/p>\n\n\n\n

succeeded in doing, I might add.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: And is there something about the gothic girls, the vampire girls, that you find more<\/p>\n\n\n\n

attractive than the average girl walking down the L.A. strip?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, I can\u2019t get a hard on in the dark. I have to have light to see the anguish on the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

faces of the girls I crave. And the type of reptile prince that I am, the girl who is already<\/p>\n\n\n\n

soiled really goes for what my program is as opposed to the girl on the street who wants<\/p>\n\n\n\n

to fuck Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: And what is your program?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: My program is, I am the mirror. I am the expander and I am the extender of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

females need for her orgasm, not for mine. And I\u2019m an enabler of many women to feel<\/p>\n\n\n\n

free about themselves. A lot of my girlfriends are lesbians. I am often the only man<\/p>\n\n\n\n

who\u2019s intimate with women who normally wouldn\u2019t deal with men at all in a sexual way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Now at this particular party, did you find that there were a lot of women who played<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the part and, in other words, looked that way for play, but didn\u2019t actually\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, there are always poseurs and there\u2019s always the suburban bitch who shows<\/p>\n\n\n\n

up, either Hollywood or New York or Chicago or London or Berlin, trying to give the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

illusion to herself, her friends, and to strangers, that she\u2019s ready to suck you into the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

vortex of death, otherwise known as a dirty pussy, and a lot of them go home and wash<\/p>\n\n\n\n

it off and go to work at Wal-Mart the next day and they don\u2019t want to have sex with<\/p>\n\n\n\n

anybody. Like some men who aren\u2019t gay, go in drag, it\u2019s a similar thing. They don\u2019t go to<\/p>\n\n\n\n

gay clubs and they have wives and daughters, but they dress up in garters and lace and<\/p>\n\n\n\n

stuff, such and such. And there are women who do the same thing for the same<\/p>\n\n\n\n

reasons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Kim Fowley and The Runaways<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: And your program as far as what you want to do for women, has it been that way<\/p>\n\n\n\n

since the 1960\u2019s?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: No, its been that way since the 40\u2019s. I\u2019m sixty-three years old. I had my first serious<\/p>\n\n\n\n

relationship when i was eleven years old and my girlfriend was twenty-seven. I learned<\/p>\n\n\n\n

then it wasn\u2019t what I was interested in, it was what they needed, If you can figure out<\/p>\n\n\n\n

what women need on their own terms without forcing yourself on her that\u2019s the trick. So<\/p>\n\n\n\n

you align and consolidate what you need as a man and you bring it into their need area,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

you deliver and then you have them for life anytime you want.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: What kind of influence did your parents being in show business have to do with your<\/p>\n\n\n\n

lifestyle as an 11-year-old?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I have ten sets of parents. My father had eight wives, my mother had two husbands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

By the time I was nineteen I had ten sets of parents, fourteen grade schools, four high<\/p>\n\n\n\n

schools, three universities, and two colleges. Pneumonia nine times and Polio twice. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

was exhausted when I entered the rock n\u2019 roll arena, because I had an opium addict<\/p>\n\n\n\n

father, a drug abuse and alcohol abuse mother and I was the lookout man when I first<\/p>\n\n\n\n

met my dad out of the foster home when I was placed there during the war; when my<\/p>\n\n\n\n

mother ran off with a rich guy and hoped my dad would die, which he didn\u2019t in the war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My first twenty-four hours with my dad, who was the movie director in Singing In The<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rain. I remember I was the lookout when he went and scored opium. I didn\u2019t do drugs<\/p>\n\n\n\n

like other guys, because I had drug addict or alcohol obsessive parents. When your<\/p>\n\n\n\n

parents are extreme, you generally go the other direction, just like a lot of guys who are<\/p>\n\n\n\n

junkies have a mom and dad who are Pentecostal or Methodist or something. They<\/p>\n\n\n\n

restrict and I wasn\u2019t restricted, I was let in on the decadence. I was allowed to be the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

boy in the room full of opium addicts or alcoholics or morons and geniuses and gang-<\/p>\n\n\n\n

bangs and seduction, death threats, I got to ride shotgun from the first grade all the way<\/p>\n\n\n\n

up to senior in high school with these creatures of the night.<\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: What was your first job in the entertainment business?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: My first job job the entertainment business was throwing outlaw parties. I had Polio<\/p>\n\n\n\n

thru my junior and senior years in high school and I still have the disability, which you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

didn\u2019t notice, because [of] the brightly colored clothes, probably. I came out of a Polio<\/p>\n\n\n\n

hospital with no place to live, my Dad had deserted me, my mother was long gone. So I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

found kids in my high school who couldn\u2019t get laid. We got them hookers and put them<\/p>\n\n\n\n

in a hotel on a weekend when their parents would leave town and then we would get a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

moving van to take all the furniture out of their house. We brought slot machines in, we<\/p>\n\n\n\n

brought in an old bar, then we had bands play, then we had a food truck show up, we<\/p>\n\n\n\n

would have our girlfriends bust the purses of all the girls in the party and we would have<\/p>\n\n\n\n

our brothers outside stripping the cars. We had rock n\u2019 roll going on. I knew how to be a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

criminal aficionado and I knew how to make twelve hundred to two thousand dollars a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

week doing this, my share, we would pay everyone else. Everyone got laid, everyone<\/p>\n\n\n\n

got paid and I knew the music would work. I knew the kinds of music the kids at my<\/p>\n\n\n\n

school would want to hear and see and we always had certain types of music that it<\/p>\n\n\n\n

would work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Where was it that you grew up?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I grew up in West L.A., which is West Los Angeles, California. In my high school<\/p>\n\n\n\n

was Ryan O\u2019Neil, Jan and Dean and Beach Boys members, Sandra D., Nancy Sinatra,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and there were people who later went on to do music. We were all there, we were in an<\/p>\n\n\n\n

outlaw car club culture. Very similar to what you seen in Rebel Without A Cause!.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Do you think that atmosphere contributed to success with you and the others artists<\/p>\n\n\n\n

you mentioned?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, you\u2019re right, cause we were white people trying to be crazy and we needed<\/p>\n\n\n\n

vehicles, like every white kid we went to black culture for inspiration. When I was in the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

eight grade I read Iceberg Slim\u2019s book, who was the influence for all the things, that Ice-<\/p>\n\n\n\n

T and early rapper lyrics. He was the first black, post-war author who wrote about the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

black experience, white pussy and how to control white women, how to deal with cock<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and balls, power, dick and how a weaker man would pay for your girlfriend.<\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: What about, as far as in the rock n\u2019 roll business?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: It\u2019s the same thing. Crime and rock n\u2019 roll are the same thing. (pause for a few<\/p>\n\n\n\n

seconds). When you look at politics or commercial entertainment it\u2019s all based on the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

same thing, it\u2019s escapism, it\u2019s celebrity, it\u2019s dreams and power and darkness, its all<\/p>\n\n\n\n

interchangeable. That\u2019s why Ronald Reagan could be a president.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Do you think that Winona Ryder is sexier now that she\u2019s involved in this scandal?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I\u2019d marry her. I would hope so. I hope she\u2019s a junkie too. I would hope that she is<\/p>\n\n\n\n

covered in piercings and tattoos and sleeps on a bed of nails. At least I would hope so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: That\u2019s the answer I would have expected from you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Of course<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Tell me what you are most well known for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I\u2019m most well known for being disturbing\u2026instead of saying Kim Fowley qualified<\/p>\n\n\n\n

musical professional, which is really all I am. There is always the disclaimer, weird,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

strange, different, radical, some kind of sidebar is always tossed in. Just like if a girl has<\/p>\n\n\n\n

forty inch tits, you would have to mention it in some way. With me, you mention my<\/p>\n\n\n\n

height, my age, my creepiness, which is supposed to diminish maybe, confuse, or<\/p>\n\n\n\n

titillate my basic talent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Well, the same can be said of Andy Warhol.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Artist, film star, songwriter, a record producer, a music publisher, a deal maker, you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

know it\u2019s boring, tedious work. It\u2019s just like being a football coach or private detective, it\u2019s<\/p>\n\n\n\n

grueling stuff and there\u2019s a lot of resentment and hatred that goes along with it, with<\/p>\n\n\n\n

both the public and the industry and the artists themselves. Just like Malcolm McLaren<\/p>\n\n\n\n

or any Barry Gordy type of person, if you put who\u2019s in the background, he\u2019s never as<\/p>\n\n\n\n

beloved as Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise might be or Julia Roberts, who don\u2019t get criticism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even OJ Simpson doesn\u2019t get criticism, but those of us who are extreme people, we<\/p>\n\n\n\n

don\u2019t get the greatness and the recognition, we get the grudge, \u201coh yeah, you had hits\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

well I\u2019ve sold 102 million records, and in 1997, 1996 I\u2019m turning units in Billboard in four<\/p>\n\n\n\n

different county\u2019s charts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Since what year was it. \u201896?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Between \u201996 and 2001, just in that recent time. In that five year period I charted<\/p>\n\n\n\n

thirty times. And why? Well I\u2019m musically skilled, I\u2019m electronically skilled, I\u2019m a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

copyright scholar, I\u2019m a person who is educated, a person who understands how to do<\/p>\n\n\n\n

music business. my day job, dude. So, that\u2019s really what I make money doing. Although,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

when I lived in New Orleans, I was down there for a sexual sabbatical. I was down there<\/p>\n\n\n\n

for black pussy. I was there for lesbian strippers. I was there for the Anne Rice voodoo<\/p>\n\n\n\n

zombie culture. I was there for Mardi Gras and all the versions of Mardi Gras and as<\/p>\n\n\n\n

many local festivals and celebrations. I would start at 11pm at night and I turn in at 7am<\/p>\n\n\n\n

in the morning. I would sleep all day. I lived at the French Quarter, I was Mr. X, that was<\/p>\n\n\n\n

my name. I didn\u2019t say I was Kim Fowley with a hundred and two million records behind<\/p>\n\n\n\n

me in that five year period that I charted thirty times. I never told anybody down there<\/p>\n\n\n\n

what I did. When I was awake I would mail out music and collect money and the rest of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the time I would go crazy. I mean, I wouldn\u2019t go crazy, but you would think I was going<\/p>\n\n\n\n

crazy, because all I did was extend that year in high school, that summer of school<\/p>\n\n\n\n

when you rule and then you never rule again. You know, you just buy beer for<\/p>\n\n\n\n

everybody. You were a senior in a high school and then you realized you were a piece<\/p>\n\n\n\n

of shit if you go to college, or a piece of shit if you start working at a factory or<\/p>\n\n\n\n

something, but that summer you\u2019re the golden boy, you know what I\u2019m trying to say?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That last great American summer? I extended it for a whole life and I lived that way. As<\/p>\n\n\n\n

a matter of fact, I\u2019m going to be moving back to Europe. I\u2019m leaving California, I\u2019m going<\/p>\n\n\n\n

to go overseas again and go back to being a sexual pig and just make gluttony of it all\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: Sixty-three and you still perform, correct?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Sexually or musically?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Let\u2019s talk musically this time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yes, I have several albums coming out. It\u2019s all on my website. I have a total of eight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m going to tell you after I answer the first part. The record is called The West Is The<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Best or Five Days Without Sleep. I don\u2019t know which title we\u2019re going to use, but in that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

situation, that\u2019s myself and a bunch of desert rats out here in the desert with this kind of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

heroin-serial killer-slow fuck-moan-cowbell-driven delta music. Then I have another<\/p>\n\n\n\n

record coming out doing a totally different style that comes out in March. It\u2019s like a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tommy James and the Shondells record on a modern live; Like ZZ Top \u201cTush\u201d meets<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ministry \u201cJesus Built My Hot Rod.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: They show you ten times on VH-1 where you say Nikki Sixx was dressed for MTV<\/p>\n\n\n\n

before there was MTV.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Right, well I\u2019ve done two other specials for them. Bad Girls of Rock n\u2019 Roll. I was on<\/p>\n\n\n\n

camera, I\u2019m on camera on the Alan Freed. You know, the man who coined the term rock<\/p>\n\n\n\n

n\u2019 roll? I\u2019m also a featured commentator on the Sonny Bono tribute on the E! Channel,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and when John Phillips died I commented on that on Court TV. I\u2019m also a movie actor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m in a new movie at Sundance this year called End of the Century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: So, we can see that at all the independent movie houses soon, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Apparently, I don\u2019t know how much of me they use, but I sang four songs and I was<\/p>\n\n\n\n

an actor in it. You never know at those things how much film was taken out with you in<\/p>\n\n\n\n

it. I\u2019m in another movie with David Bowie, Keanu Reeves and Cher called Mayor of the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sunset Strip, which is a documentary. I have a book coming out, the working title<\/p>\n\n\n\n

is\u2026well, it changes all the time, the other day it was called \u201cMonster Man Faces the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lord of Garbage,\u201d some days it\u2019s called \u201cVillain,\u201d some days it\u2019s called \u201cConfessions of a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

rock n\u2019 roll Mad Man\u201d and some days it\u2019s called the \u201cBook of Blood.\u201d I don\u2019t really know<\/p>\n\n\n\n

what they\u2019re going to end up calling it, but those are the titles that are floating<\/p>\n\n\n\n

around.They won\u2019t let me tell any rock \u2019n roll stories. They want filth and horror from me,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and garbage. They don\u2019t want any celebrity or rock n\u2019 roll stuff, they want the really bad<\/p>\n\n\n\n

stuff I\u2019ve been involved in. I was a professional soldier, Polio and all. I have to talk about<\/p>\n\n\n\n

being in the Army and the Air Force. A lot of guys in the 50\u2019s, young men needed to go<\/p>\n\n\n\n

down there, run around in Jeeps, fuck native women and blow up bridges and stuff, so<\/p>\n\n\n\n

that\u2019s all in there; war stories and stuff during the war over Yugoslavia and all that. I had<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the number one record during, I don\u2019t know what they call that war, some people called<\/p>\n\n\n\n

it the Serbian War, the Bosnia War, whatever the damn thing was called. We made an<\/p>\n\n\n\n

album that was under a phony name and it was a take off on Bill Clinton and Monica<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lewinsky. Remember that Kennedy album that came out before The Beatles, that first<\/p>\n\n\n\n

family album where they imitated the Kennedy\u2019s? They had actors pretending to be the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kennedy\u2019s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: That\u2019s way before my time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, it was the number one album before Thriller. It held the record of most albums<\/p>\n\n\n\n

before Thriller came along and it was a light-hearted thing. We had an Elvis guy<\/p>\n\n\n\n

pretending to be Bill Clinton singing about running a motorcycle gang if he would have<\/p>\n\n\n\n

left office. Monica Lewinsky joining a group like The Spice Girls and stuff. It was fun and<\/p>\n\n\n\n

we did it in New Orleans. Somehow it got over there and it became the number one<\/p>\n\n\n\n

record. The radio station tat won the MTV freedom award, MTV Europe Freedom<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Award, because during the war they played music-wise; the young kids wanted<\/p>\n\n\n\n

freedom, wanted democracy, they would play all this radical music while bombs were<\/p>\n\n\n\n

flying around and our album was number one there. So when I moved to Vienna, I was<\/p>\n\n\n\n

brought down to sing there under the name Vultures In The Sky. I sang under the name<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Canine Unit. I kind of sound like Bob Hope. I don\u2019t know if I was entertaining the troops,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I was entertaining the girls there, it was pretty interesting. Somebody asked me if I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

wanted a gig as a soldier there and I said, \u201cno, I\u2019ll have the gig as the visiting rock star.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n

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Kim Fowley and Thomas Thorn of The Electric Hellfire Club Hollywood CA 2002<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: I want to ask about when you do hypnosis, you do different kinds of things in a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

performance. So say that I book you here or someone can book you in any other city,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

what is it you will do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I\u2019m my own opening act. I\u2019m my own top-of-the-bill and I\u2019m my own supporting act. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

come on stage, if I have my own musicians I do about thirty types pf music because I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

used to be a demo singer. That means I can do folk rock. I can do country rock, I can do<\/p>\n\n\n\n

pop, I can do delta blues, I can do country, I can do honky-tonk, I can do funk. Secondly,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

whatever town I go into, I go in a day or two early and I figure out what\u2019s going on in that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

town and I wrote songs that improvise about that town and it\u2019s issues. So if I came to<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chicago I would come and sing about Chicago. Or I would sing about the suburbs of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chicago, or the drugs, the death and the horror of Chicago, or the beauty of Chicago. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

lived in Illinois anyway. I lived in Woodridge, out by Downers Grove.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: And when was that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: In \u201985 – \u201986, when the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Yeah, the Super Bowl Shuffle<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: My hair turned gray there, I didn\u2019t have gray hair until I moved to Chicago. The<\/p>\n\n\n\n

winter did it, I\u2019m not a winter guy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: What type of things have happened during your performances that might be out of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the norm for say like a Henry Rollins or a jazz ensemble?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, I\u2019ve had my cock sucked on stage by a stripper, the fire department guy came<\/p>\n\n\n\n

through doing a fire inspection and there\u2019s my cock in a chick\u2019s mouth. I then got<\/p>\n\n\n\n

banned from L.A, city and then they let me play six months later, I showed up in a gold<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Elvis suit with a Ku Klux Klan black hood on and got a gay guy to fuck a lesbian on<\/p>\n\n\n\n

stage. That caused my record to be burned in the street by the manager of Licorice<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pizza in protest of my offensive stage show. So it\u2019s beyond what Genitorturers do. This<\/p>\n\n\n\n

is 1968 and she wasn\u2019t doing that in 1968, she was doing her stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Do you encourage audience participation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well, I put twenty-five to thirty people on stage with me. I bring people from the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

audience up. Other singers are invited. If there are ant politicians who want to talk about<\/p>\n\n\n\n

anything, or activists that need a platform, I go to the bathroom or make a phone call<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and I turn the stage or the band over to them. Let them do their thing, I\u2019ll come back,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and if the audience wants me to, I\u2019ll continue. Sometimes girls show their tits,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

sometimes men show their cocks, sometimes gay people talk about their relationships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ve had cripples come up there and show their artificial limbs. I\u2019ve had drug dealers in<\/p>\n\n\n\n

European countries advertise what they were selling in the bathroom on stage. It\u2019s<\/p>\n\n\n\n

provocative, it\u2019s horrifying, and normally the people that would heckle me or would want<\/p>\n\n\n\n

to fight, I invite them onstage so they can participate too. Of course each city and each<\/p>\n\n\n\n

state all have laws so if someone brings me to Chicago I\u2019d say, \u201cokay, what\u2019s the legal<\/p>\n\n\n\n

framework here?\u2019 Also, because I\u2019m a professional, you can only do so many things and<\/p>\n\n\n\n

there are restrictions everywhere when you do things in public, so if society said you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

can\u2019t mention chocolate, or you can\u2019t talk about vegetables on stage, then I don\u2019t go into<\/p>\n\n\n\n

those areas. That\u2019s a metaphor example. I find out what I can get away with. I attempt<\/p>\n\n\n\n

to get away with stand if I can\u2019t get away with anything, then I know how to rock. So if<\/p>\n\n\n\n

we can\u2019t be provocative and we can\u2019t be revolutionary or dangerous, then we\u2019ll just be a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

bunch of jerk offs playing. The people can dance and bang their heads, that\u2019s the worst<\/p>\n\n\n\n

thing that will happen in one of my shows, is that you might throw up outside and feel<\/p>\n\n\n\n

good about it. You might fuck that night, you might fall in love with your only wife that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

night and meet her for the first time. You might form a band after seeing me, because if<\/p>\n\n\n\n

a 63-year-old man can get up there and tear the place apart and change the world, then<\/p>\n\n\n\n

anything is possible.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Kim Fowley and Jason Charles Miller (then of GODHEAD) Hollywood CA 2002<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: The one thing we deal a lot with are girl bands, and you are more or less the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

godfather of that. Tell me about The Runaways, why did you decide to pick who you did<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and how did you know that it would work?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I knew it would work because of the Amazon culture. If you go back to Greek<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mythology, you see Venus and Goddesses of love and lust, enlightenment and Eve as<\/p>\n\n\n\n

in Adam and Eve. Evil was introduced in the Garden of Eden, when Adam was given an<\/p>\n\n\n\n

apple by Eve, the snakes and all that, so I always knew pussy was subversive. So if it\u2019s<\/p>\n\n\n\n

true that women brought down mankind from the very beginning, then they should<\/p>\n\n\n\n

continue to do it. That\u2019s when the friction between men and women with the first man<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and woman. Secondly, during history here have been female heroes, Joan of Ark, Tokyo<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rose and various characters in religion, everything from the Virgin Mary to Mother<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Theresa, and in terms of goodness and in terms of evil as in Delilah. You have the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Madonna shore contest tug-of-war in Western culture. You have total repression of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

women in other cultures. You have women outliving men. Women drive men into an<\/p>\n\n\n\n

early grave and dance on it with a 19-year-old boy from down the street. Women have<\/p>\n\n\n\n

power called female energy. Even the Civil War, they had all-women bands, did you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

know that? Men were off fighting, so women would entertain them, did music when the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

men were away. There have been female bands before. What there hasn\u2019t been before<\/p>\n\n\n\n

is women playing rock n\u2019 roll who were under the age of consent, which meant<\/p>\n\n\n\n

underage girls. I had girls, I didn\u2019t have women, I had girls 15 and 16 up there playing in<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Runaways when the group first came out. Those weren\u2019t fabricated ages, they were<\/p>\n\n\n\n

real; 13-year-old girls, 15-year-old singers and 16-year-old guitar players. That was also<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the year that we had a female assassin you to kill Gerald Ford and the Governor of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kentucky was a woman. There were women boxers and baseball players emerging as<\/p>\n\n\n\n

sports figures. So men were getting more and more feminine. New York Dolls had only<\/p>\n\n\n\n

been a couple years before The Runaways. The men were getting more feminine,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

women were getting stronger, so there was a combustion on a Darwinian level. All of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the sudden it evolved into The Runaways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: But there\u2019s a big difference between The Runaways and the GTOs, but The Runaways had a hit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Well that\u2019s because Kim Fowley co-wrote. Frank Zappa, who I sang with on the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mothers of Invention, my names on the first album, Frank wasn\u2019t a hit writer, he didn\u2019t<\/p>\n\n\n\n

know how to write a hit song. Kim Fowley had hits, you can go on my website. Instead<\/p>\n\n\n\n

of running down all my greatest hits, if you want to know what they are, look at the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

website. Okay, so I was writing for KISS at the time. I already had \u201cDo You Love Me\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and \u201cKing Of The Nighttime World\u201d which I co-wrote on the KISS album, Destroyer. I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

was co-writing a song with Alice Cooper called \u201cEscape\u201d on Welcome To My<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nightmare, so I was already a genius songwriter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When I met Kim in L.A. we played a game. I would bring up a name or a subject and he<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

would give me a comment on it. I found the exchange do interesting that I decided to<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

make it part of this interview. Though the topics may not be of interest to the reader,<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

they are topics that are relevant to the producers of MK ULTRA and some represent the<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

MK ULTRA lifestyle. Some are out of sheer pop-culture curiosity.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Charles Manson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: No outlet for his music skills<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: \u2026elaborate a little.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: He didn\u2019t have a record deal, so he found another way of getting his message<\/p>\n\n\n\n

across,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Reality television.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I think that American Idol and The Bachelor are wonderful, because it\u2019s real<\/p>\n\n\n\n

people being stupid on television and that\u2019s entertaining.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Michael Jackson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Michael Jackson needs to make a gut-bucket funk record and he\u2019ll be fine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, who would I marry? Brittney Spears. Who would<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I have sport fucking with? Christina Aguilera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Edie Sedgwick.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Was the star of a movie called Ciao Manhattan that Kim Fowley produced and co-<\/p>\n\n\n\n

wrote a song on the soundtrack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Ralph Sonny Barger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yeah, good writer. I like his book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Howard Stern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Overrated. I like the dirty girls he has on there, but he\u2019s too unkind and he\u2019s not a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

nice person to a lot of the people who go on that show. I think the dirty pussy part is<\/p>\n\n\n\n

fine, but a lot of those people are really mutilated unnecessarily by him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Johnny Cash.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Johnny Cash at selling records was God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Rick Rubin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Rick Rubin makes really goof records.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Marilyn Manson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: There\u2019s a picture of Marilyn Manson and Kim Fowley on my website and I spent<\/p>\n\n\n\n

part of an afternoon with him watching him rehearse with his band. Marilyn Manson is<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the Gene Simmons school of rock n\u2019 roll strategy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Anton LaVey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: There\u2019s a good writer. I met his daughter Zena, what a beautiful girl she is. She was<\/p>\n\n\n\n

getting a to go order at Denny\u2019s in Hollywood in the late 80\u2019s and she was really good<\/p>\n\n\n\n

looking at the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: The first Woodstock.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: People got laid at both Woodstocks, the first and the third, the second one was too<\/p>\n\n\n\n

much mud.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: The final Woodstock.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yeah, a lot of filth there. Disorder is cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Nikki Sixx.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Nikki Sixx has a brain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Timothy Leary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: He was a charming guy and I was just as intimidating, smart, and charismatic as he<\/p>\n\n\n\n

was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: The Tubes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Fee Waybill is a good front man and choreographer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: LSD.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Was the name of a song by the band called The Midnighters. When little Willy G<\/p>\n\n\n\n

got thrown in jail I sang for him on a Midnighter\u2019s album as a substitute singer on two<\/p>\n\n\n\n

tracks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Heroin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Heroin is the whole reason for The Velvet Underground existing. As Keith<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Richards once said, \u201cI never has a cold as long as I was on heroin.\u201d You don\u2019t get head<\/p>\n\n\n\n

colds when you\u2019re on heroin.<\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: Gene Simmons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Gene Simmons is the General Douglas McArthur of rock n\u2019 roll.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Bill Clinton.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Bill Clinton, one half JFK, and one half Elvis.<\/p>\n\n\n

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AZ: George Bush, Jr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: George Bush, Jr., I\u2019m glad he\u2019s my president. He\u2019s exactly the president we need<\/p>\n\n\n\n

right now. Although in the perfect world, John McCain would have been president with<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jesse Ventura as Vice President. I like to remind George W. Bush that we do have<\/p>\n\n\n\n

atomic bombs and why doesn\u2019t he use it? Everybody will straighten up for another 50<\/p>\n\n\n\n

years. I mean, I remember when General McArthur, the Gene Simmons of the military<\/p>\n\n\n\n

said in 1945, \u201cIf we keep the land war going, this war won\u2019t be over until 1949 and<\/p>\n\n\n\n

200,000 service men are going to die. But if we drop the bomb on Japan, the war will be<\/p>\n\n\n\n

over in three days.\u201d Good, let\u2019s drop the bomb on Japan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: I think they killed less people at Pearl Harbor and we did more. They killed more<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and did worse in New York than we could, just drop it on that mother fucker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Right. So, imagine where we would be right now a a country if Ralph Nader was<\/p>\n\n\n\n

president. They would be having [a] love in on the left bank and serving macrobiotic<\/p>\n\n\n\n

food.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: And they would be dropping bombs on us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yeah, use the fucking bomb because they\u2019re going to use it. Get on with it so we<\/p>\n\n\n\n

can have some good war records. Some band can show up and have dog tags that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

glow in the dark on the stage, get up there and sing about the war. \u201cWar Pigs,\u201d like<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Black Sabbath, the whole album, like that kind of stuff on a modern level would be<\/p>\n\n\n\n

good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Jim Morrison.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Best white rock n\u2019 roll entertainer ever on stage. Better than Jagger or Elvis. God<\/p>\n\n\n\n

onstage, period. God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Larry Flynt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Hustler, I love that magazine. I love Barely Legal, that\u2019s my bible. Those women<\/p>\n\n\n\n

are all from central Europe, most of them. You know those naked chicks in there? Which<\/p>\n\n\n\n

is another reason I\u2019m going to Austria in April.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Since we\u2019re on the subject of women, I have the Vanity Fair, November 2002,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

which you are all over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: I\u2019m in two November issues. There\u2019s been three music issues in the history of<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vanity Fair and I\u2019ve done all three of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: The reason I have this is for you. I\u2019m looking and I want you to think about this;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gwen Stefani, Jennifer Lopez, Sheryl Crow, Debbie Harry, Shirley Manson, Alicia Keys,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Norah Jones, Eve, and Nelly Furtado. Which one would you like to see do an eight page<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hustler spread over all the other ones?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Gwen Stefani.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Which one would you prefer to take to bed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Shirley Manson. But I would listen to Norah Jones\u2019 music while I was eating Shirley<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Manson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Okay, back to two more subjects, the Columbine shootings. What do you say about<\/p>\n\n\n\n

that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: rock n\u2019 roll.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Goth related?<\/p>\n\n\n

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KF: No, everybody in high school is mutilated. If you were a jock, a cheerleader, or a<\/p>\n\n\n\n

student body president, you\u2019re mutilated by your parents. If you\u2019re some nerd that never<\/p>\n\n\n\n

gets laid and never gets invited to parties, then you suffer that way. In the in-between<\/p>\n\n\n\n

everybody\u2019s confused. Those guys had outlet needs, they didn\u2019t express themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So mass murder became their from of expression. That was an art piece from my point<\/p>\n\n\n\n

of view, that was necessary from where they were conjunctively in the pain machine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

They were being mutilated by the pain of high school society. If you turn on television for<\/p>\n\n\n\n

twenty-four hours and you are a young person today, if you\u2019re not Brad Pitt and Jennifer<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aniston, then you don\u2019t count in our society. In a Brad Bitt and Britney Spears world,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

nobody has a chance to fit in and excel, so if you look at the brutality of where we are as<\/p>\n\n\n\n

culture, either youth culture, war culture, or Western culture, you\u2019ve got to be a person<\/p>\n\n\n\n

you would normally despise, just to survive in it. Kim Fowley learned how to<\/p>\n\n\n\n

compromise with adults, I\u2019ve learned how to put my game face on. I go out and do<\/p>\n\n\n\n

business, I avoid my need for dirty pussy or my need to be a disruptive presence in the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

culture. I\u2019ve learned how to be [a] middle-class businessman and say, \u201cthank you, sir,\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cyes ma\u2019am,\u201d and \u201cget the fuck out and go to the bank.\u201d Loads of people don\u2019t learn that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and so they get stuck in alcoholism, being serial killers, being victims, or being<\/p>\n\n\n\n

 mediocre. They don\u2019t know how to be divine within their own madness and horror. They<\/p>\n\n\n\n

don\u2019t know how to harness their big tits and big cocks and go out there to piss and shit<\/p>\n\n\n\n

on the world at their leisure. They don\u2019t know how to avoid capture. I have learned how<\/p>\n\n\n\n

to be invisible and larger than life. I recommend it to everybody who\u2019s on fire, so you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

don\u2019t end up being a victim of Columbine because both of the two guys who did all the<\/p>\n\n\n\n

killing and everyone they killed were victims. The people who survived were victims that<\/p>\n\n\n\n

year and other schools were victims. Everybody wants calm, piece of shit, farts, eat<\/p>\n\n\n\n

greasy cheeseburgers and have a good time, but the culture we\u2019re in doesn\u2019t allow too<\/p>\n\n\n\n

many of them to do that. Some of us destroy ourselves and others because we are so<\/p>\n\n\n\n

torn up by our own hormones that we cannot stand it. I\u2019m not justifying it, I\u2019m only<\/p>\n\n\n\n

sympathizing with all concerned. That it\u2019s a shame, it\u2019s keeping up with the Joneses. It\u2019s<\/p>\n\n\n\n

the same that you\u2019re hating on, which you hate about the mainstream, I hate about high<\/p>\n\n\n\n

school. It\u2019s the same thing. Isn\u2019t high school mainstream castrated society?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: It\u2019s the worst time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: It is and so what I do, as a person who lives in many cultures, I speak other<\/p>\n\n\n\n

languages, I live in other countries, I live in other cities, I have a closet full of costumes,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I have blue suits, I have black pimp clothes, I have drag queen pearls, I have Doc<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Martin boots, I have rubber tennis shoes, I have clothes for every occasion and I switch<\/p>\n\n\n\n

in-and-out of roles, so I can survive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: There\u2019s nothing wrong with that, but some people feel locked into what society tells<\/p>\n\n\n\n

them they have to be and that\u2019s not what it\u2019s all about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: The guys who were in Columbine didn\u2019t live long enough to learn it, those lessons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Some people think if you\u2019re a \u201cgothic\u201d person you don\u2019t dare go put on a suit and tie<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and go make some money. \u201cThat\u201d could be your costume.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Right. When I read your magazine I say, \u201cwell, I wonder wh<\/p>\n\n\n\n

o reads this?\u201dDo people<\/p>\n\n\n\n

who jack off read it? Do people who shoot heroin read it? I bet you people who don\u2019t<\/p>\n\n\n\n

want Julia Roberts as their wife, they read it, because they want dirty pussy or they<\/p>\n\n\n\n

want dirty cock depending on their preference. As William Burroughs once said, \u201cAll<\/p>\n\n\n\n

they have is cock and pussy, too bad we don\u2019t have variations of it.\u201d But SheDevilVixen,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

now there\u2019s sexy, I think she\u2019s sensational.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: I thought you\u2019d like that. What is your comment on organized religion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yvette Lera should be the Pope of it. We need Yvette as the sexual female Jesus<\/p>\n\n\n\n

because if we worshipped her kind it would make more sense than somebody who may<\/p>\n\n\n\n

or may not been god 2,000 years ago. All the gods that are current are about 2,000<\/p>\n\n\n\n

years old and we normally use that to fill the void, so we must worship it. We need to<\/p>\n\n\n\n

worship Yvette Lera.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Yvette Lera and Kim Fowley would eventually meet in Hollywood CA<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: So I noticed you\u2019re a fan of some of the girls on the website.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: Yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AZ: Any in particular?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

KF: They all should worship my cock and my big balls. It\u2019s something that they crave<\/p>\n\n\n\n

and they should. If any of them are interested [they] should send me an email and I<\/p>\n\n\n\n

would entertain them in my desert palace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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