{"id":13689,"date":"2025-06-27T18:57:45","date_gmt":"2025-06-27T23:57:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=13689"},"modified":"2025-06-27T19:10:27","modified_gmt":"2025-06-28T00:10:27","slug":"the-mk-ultra-interview-with-peter-steele-of-type-o-negative-from-spring-issue-1997","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=13689","title":{"rendered":"The MK ULTRA Interview with Peter Steele of TYPE O NEGATIVE from Spring issue 1997"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"444\" height=\"584\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/1996-PS-COVER-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13690\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/1996-PS-COVER-1.png 444w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/1996-PS-COVER-1-228x300.png 228w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 444px) 100vw, 444px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>BLOOD ON THE GROOVES\u2026<br>AN INTERVIEW WITH THE MAN OF STEELE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Interview by Alex Zander with transcription by Jason Harmon<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A lot of readers may not know that the reason M.K. ULTRA exists is because of Peter Steele and his band, Type O Negative. As a writer, I had originally done the interview for three publications. 1) Backwards Dog &#8211; a \u2018zine by Aaron P. Arthurs, but due to his job placement was unable to meet his demands as a publisher, Backwards Dog ceased. 2) Rock Out Censorship &#8211; due to financial difficulties, the issue that ran my story was delayed a full year. 3) 3rd Nail &#8211; a goth \u2018zine out of Pittsburgh, PA., later claimed Type O mocked Goth and denied the story it\u2019s run. In a fit of anger, I burst out that I\u2019d just start my own mag. This great interview had to be read. The music had to be heard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It took six months, a lot of time, money and sacrifices, but in January 1995, M.K. ULTRA, with Peter Steele and Jesus Christ on the cover, saw the shelves of many record stores, bars, and specialty shops, as well as hands of many concert goers. It also turned out that our artist at the time, Syd Edwards, designed the bands most popular T-shirt, which sold for 30 bucks each.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"443\" height=\"578\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/SYD-SHIRT-2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13696\" style=\"width:381px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/SYD-SHIRT-2.png 443w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/SYD-SHIRT-2-230x300.png 230w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 443px) 100vw, 443px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">TYPE O NEGATIVE T Shirt design by former MK ULTRA artist Syd Edwards 1995<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I saw Type O Negative go from playing very small clubs and mid-size theaters to sold out arenas, with the likes of Danzig, Pantera, and God for-fucking-bid, Queensryche. I watched Billboard Magazine every week to see the CD, Bloody Kisses, bounce in and out of the top 200 chart. They charted highest with their contribution to the Mortal Kombat disc via the remix of \u201cBlood &amp; Fire.\u201d In June 1995, I got a Type O Negative tattoo by St. Marq at Skin Quake in Indianapolis.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By August, Peter Steele was on the cover of Playgirl and began to make appearances on Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake. It wasn\u2019t until early 1996 that Bloody Kisses finally became certified gold.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Type O Negative busted their butts by touring for over 2 1\/2 years to earn that award, the full page ad in Billboard said, \u201cTrust your instinct, gold will follow.\u201d I looked at me co-workers and smiled and thought to myself, \u201cI told you so.\u201d I told my friends, family, co-workers, staff and you readers about this band for a long time. I saw them live 10 times in two years (I\u2019ve seen KISS 16 times in 17 years). I\u2019ve trusted my instincts as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I haven\u2019t read a negative review of Bloody Kisses or their live performance since the release of the now gold effort. but it wasn\u2019t always that way (read about it in Interview with the Vampire). But as Peter states, \u201cBad press is better than none.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even Beavis and Butthead got into it early on. During the video for \u201cBlack No.1\u201d Beavis says, \u201cThis band is like a cross between Danzig and Megadeth.\u201d Butthead responds, \u201cThis band is like a cross between Danzig and my butt.\u201d Beavis then replies by saying, \u201cThat\u2019s not very nice\u201d, and Butthead ends by stating, \u201cNo was, it was a compliment, my butt rules!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, as I said, they busted their butts for this gold. Touring with the like of Life Of Agony, Queensryche, Danzig, Pantera, Nine Inch Nails, Motley Crue, and even the Electric Hellfire Club. Type O played clubs on nights the headliners had off. Then, after the tour, they entered the studio, recorded October Rust (due late August \u201996) and went back out with Deep Purple and Ozzy. Without a doubt, this has to be the hardest working band this side of White Zombie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, after two years, you hold M.K. ULTRA, a magazine whose readers swear by the music of Type O Negative. So, in return, we got not only this exclusive interview with Peter, but also an interview with Josh Silver by Gail Worley in New York, and we\u2019re reprinting my first encounter with Mr. Steele in its entirety for those of you that didn\u2019t get M.K. ULTRA back then and for those of you that already Issue One, there are previously unprinted portions of the interview that ran back in January 1995.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, this bloods for you ghoulies. Drink up and prepare to intoxicate yourselves in October Rust.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> How\u2019s it going?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: It\u2019s going good. I\u2019m here in the Roadrunner offices the rest of the day, which is alright because they\u2019re feeding me and I can use as much coffee as I like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: First of all, I wanted to ask you how close you were to Shane Lassen (keyboardist for Electric Hellfire Club, who tragically passed away earlier this year) and how\u2019d you feel about what happened?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I consider myself a friend of his. It was quite shocking. I felt really bad for him. I felt especially bad for his family. His life ended quite quickly and quite mercifully. His family and friends had to deal with that tragedy, so my feelings aren\u2019t really at the forefront of my concern. It\u2019s really with the people who cared about him the most. I actually spoke to Thomas yesterday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> How\u2019s he doing??<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong><strong>: <\/strong>He\u2019s doing okay. He sent me a copy of his new tape, which sounds really good. Now there\u2019s a possibility we might be touring with those guys when we go headlining later this year. That should be fun\u2026all for the best.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>I\u2019ve listened to the six song advance sample of the new LP. Is this pretty much summing up the sound of the band now?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes. The songs we left off the sampler are in the same vein as the six you have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Being that \u201cMy Girlfriend\u2019s Girlfriend\u201d is under four minutes, is this the single?<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> (laughs) Yes. That was the ready made single, which was unintentional that I wrote that song last and that it wound up on the album. It\u2019s about the two\u2019s company, three\u2019s an orgy type thing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: That\u2019s always a lot of fun, and so is the song. Are you doing a video for that one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Yes we are. Actually, we\u2019re doing it next Tuesday or Wednesday.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe title=\"Type O Negative - My Girlfriend&#039;s Girlfriend [OFFICIAL VIDEO]\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KgkBWZXVLyk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: What\u2019s \u201cIn Praise of Bacchus\u201d all about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Bacchus was the Greek god of wine, the woods and merriment, and so I kind of pictured myself drunk out of my mind on wine, sitting under a tree, and feeling sorry about myself or for myself having been dumped once again. There I am thinking over and over again, she hates me. I\u2019m thinking, \u201cBacchus, where the fuck are you?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: \u201cRed Water\u201d Is this your Christmas song?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Yeah. My father passed away last year so last Christmas wasn\u2019t that happy of a time for me. You know, not only thinking about him, everyone else I lost. \u201cRed Wine\u201d \u2026some people might think it means blood, but it\u2019s really the red wine that I\u2019m drowning my sorrows in, so that I would not have to stay awake and see ghosts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: You\u2019ve been using the word gothadelic to describe your music now. How did you decide on this as the Type O sound?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: It was either that or junk rock. I thought gothadelic was kind of clever sounding and it really hits the nail right on the head. Being that we\u2019re a dark band but er have a lot of 60\u2019s influences, so hence maybe music that would have been made by dead hippies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: You seem to keep ahold of the hardcore fans, and now you\u2019ve got the brooding Goths. Do you intentionally try to please both groups?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Not true. I mean, it\u2019s true that we\u2019re trying to hold onto the fans that we made\u2026but we try to please ourselves first. If we don\u2019t and we go onstage and just go through the motions of playing, that attitude will come through loud and clear to the audience. And I would think that at that point, we would start to lose fans.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: You guys bust your asses touring continuously. Do you enjoy the lifestyle?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I hate touring. It\u2019s a necessary evil.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: How do you keep from burning out?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I drag about 400 lbs. of weights with me. Um, I have some friends in each city I get to spend some time with. Those of the female type tend to keep my mind off touring for a while.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: Scary Lady Sarah? (Mutual friend from Chicago)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>:I know Sarah. She\u2019s a very nice and very intelligent person, not to mention a beautiful person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> What\u2019s this I heard about you diving off Phil\u2019s (Anselmo) balcony into his pool?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: That was probably one of the stupidest things I have ever done in my life. I was at Phil\u2019s house one night and he showed me his pool, which is this huge circular pool with a pentagram on the bottom and uh\u2026strangely enough there\u2019s a volleyball net that goes around the whole pool, which is very contrasty there. And I asked Phil if anybody ever jumped off his balcony, which is about thirty to forty feet you know, over the pool. And he goes (slips into a whisper) \u201cAh man, no!\u201d So I start taking my clothes off and he says, \u201cDon\u2019t\u201d and then he says, \u201cIf your gonna do it, wait and let me get the video camera.\u201d And I told him, \u201cNo, this is between me and you\u201d (laughing). So I stood up on the ledge and fuckin\u2019 jumped in.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> Are these typical antics you do to keep yourself amused?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> No, this is way\u2026way out of character for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Two of your favorite bands, Electric Hellfire Club and Lycia, you\u2019ve had the chance to tour with. Do you feel a responsibility to the public to turn them onto bands like this?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>(takes a very deep breath) Um, I think the best way to answer that is to simply say yes. I tried to put together an interesting package that I felt if I was a fan I would want to see this package, that I would want to see all three bands.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>How did hardcore fans react to a band like Lycia?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Some of our fans are quite rude. At some point, I felt like I wanted to go out and say something to these few people who were giving the opening bands a hard time, but I figured that might egg them on even more, so I just let it be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Projekt uses the quote you did with us in the first line of the Lycia press kit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>(Laughing) Where I said it was, \u201cdevastatingly beautiful?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> And why even bother getting dressed when you can just slit your wrists. They loved that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> (Laughing) That\u2019s great music, man.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> I\u2019ve had some of the best sex in my life to them. So now that you\u2019ve achieved celebrity status, how\u2019s it changed your attitude towards life?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> (Very deep breath) I really don\u2019t know what to think of this new status. I bleed like everyone else and I would think if the average person thinks I\u2019m a celebrity, then I really have to question the intelligence of the general public.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Obviously you can\u2019t be suffering as much mentally as we were interpreted through the music on the first record especially. How does fame affect creativity? I mean, are you still able to be true with suffering?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s really hard to write songs in the back of a tour bus. It\u2019s hard to get motivated when you\u2019re looking at all these landscapes in passing and each one looks like a different planet. I really had to do some soul searching in order to come up with ideas for these songs. So, I had to dig real deep and put a little grain of truth, and I exaggerated a bit so that the song wouldn\u2019t be too boring, and actually tried to make a mountain out of a molehill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What about the woman you wrote about on Slow Deep &amp; Hard? Have you heard from her since achieving this status?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>No. Actually, that song was basically about one person, but I\u2019ve never said publicly who it was. Nor shall I ever, simply because it would make her head swell even larger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>The Playgirl spread helped you in terms of exposure\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> Literally<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Yeah. What do the people close to you have to say about you doing that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong><strong> <\/strong>My mother called me a fucking slob, but she was only kidding. My friends and my family understood that it\u2019s not because I want to be the porno king that I did this. They understand it was a career move.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong><strong> <\/strong>I saw your story in New Rave porno mag (Peter posed with a porno starlet). Does this mean you\u2019ll see more of Peter Steele popping up in porno mags?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Well, I definitely don\u2019t want to get into that area. From time to time it wouldn\u2019t hurt to do those little features. It\u2019s an area I think I would like to avoid.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>We get a lot of fan mail about you guys. Every person says the same thing that you\u2019re very nice to your fans. But there was a time onstage that you were as rude as your fans can be. What changed the attitude onstage?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I think that thinking I was being funny out there, and thinking that people knew that this was all a joke. But then I found out a lot of the fans were getting really upset, because they didn\u2019t get the joke, they thought I was serious. So I figured let me try to be myself ands what happens, instead of being this wise guy from Brooklyn. So it seems to work lots better. It\u2019s true that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. So, now I go for the honey rate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Do you ever miss that sarcastic insulting of the crowd? I had a lot of fun when you did that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Sometimes, when I get really drunk, that side seems to pop up, but I try to stay conscious of it because it is easily misinterpreted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What was your favorite part of that two year stretch of tour you did?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Always coming home. Other than that, I enjoy seeing fans. I like talking to the kids, and some older people that come by. I like finding out how they live and what they do with their free time. I hate being called a rock star. I hate when people feel they can\u2019t approach me or ask a question. I like answering questions, especially when they\u2019re interesting questions. Not like, \u201cWhat was your first bass?\u201d or something like that. If a person really wants to find something out about me, I don\u2019t mind answering personal things.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What about the Misfits connection? I heard Kenny sang with them on Halloween, but there was another rumor saying you were going to be the new singer for the Misfits.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Actually, two Halloweens ago, they had asked me if I wanted to do a series of Halloween shows with them, but because of my commitment with Type O Negative, I could not. But, I was honored by the request. So, we became friendly with them after that. Actually, we\u2019re trying to put together a tour with those guys and EHC around September, which I think would be a really interesting package.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"508\" height=\"476\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/OCT-1997.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/OCT-1997.png 508w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/OCT-1997-300x281.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 508px) 100vw, 508px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What is the title, October Rust, all about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>It seems to roll off the tongue really nice. I love Autumn, and since I\u2019m getting old, maybe I should change my name to Rust instead of Steele. So, I thought that was pretty funny. My cursed attempt at being humorous. October Rust just has a real nice ring to it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>You recently said America should be overthrown. Why do you feel this way?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I just don\u2019t like how things are run. I don\u2019t like all the political bullshit. I don\u2019t like living in a society where the weakest members are glorified and catered to. I pay taxes and there are people who live off the social system who seem to be doing better than I am, thanks to me and people like me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Assuming it did happen, where would you see yourself?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I think that the country should be run by a group of women. They should be mothers, because mothers seem to be a lot more sympathetic towards human life than, say, a thirty-five year old male ruler. So, I probably would be a commissioner of parks for this country.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"208\" height=\"623\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-ON-LEADER-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13691\" style=\"width:252px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-ON-LEADER-1.png 208w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-ON-LEADER-1-100x300.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 208px) 100vw, 208px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What exactly did you do when you worked for the Parks Department?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I was a heavy equipment operator.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Is it true the kids called you \u201cthe green man\u201d, and what was all that about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>That\u2019s correct. Well, I would drive up in my truck and jump out of my truck wearing my green uniform and I was always very friendly with the kids and talked to the mothers, and shot the breeze with them, and the kids really liked me. So, they started calling me Green Man because of my uniform, or maybe it&#8217;s my eyes or my teeth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What\u2019s the song \u201cGreen Man\u201d about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>It\u2019s about working for the Parks Department and about having to make the change. About how I quit the job and moved on, because nothing lasts forever. There are a lot of paths there. You can\u2019t just look back.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>The last time you interviewed with us, you told us about Lycia. Since then, we\u2019ve featured them and really come to love the music. Are there any bands you can turn us onto now? That maybe we haven\u2019t heard about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>You know, I\u2019ve been so out of touch for these last two years because of all the touring. I haven\u2019t gone to Tower Records once in like two years to see what else is out there. I\u2019ve been listening to a lot of old Beatles, Black Sabbath, Devo, and Laibach. These are my favorite bands. I\u2019m still searching for dark stuff. I would say that anything on the Projekt label would be worth checking out.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Are we going to get to see Type O soon?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>We\u2019re leaving for Europe, where we are playing ten festivals in seven countries, then we come back here and then back to Europe and start a full-fledged tour with hopefully the Misfits and The Electric Hellfire Club in September.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>How\u2019d it feel to get a gold?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Well, it didn\u2019t really feel like much, man. I mean, it took us two and half years touring to get it, so it didn\u2019t happen overnight. I really don\u2019t care about it. It\u2019s just another piece of junk in my house.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>&nbsp;I then asked Peter to leave a taped message for one of our readers and a huge fan that thirsts for him so badly she sent M.K. ULTRA poems and short stories about him. He very kindly left her a message thanking her very sincerely. After she received that taped recording, I feel she nearly had a heart attack.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BLOOD ON THE GROOVES\u2026AN INTERVIEW WITH THE MAN OF STEELE Interview by Alex Zander with transcription by Jason Harmon A lot of readers may not know that the reason M.K. ULTRA exists is because of Peter Steele and his band, Type O Negative. 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