{"id":13683,"date":"2025-06-27T18:44:27","date_gmt":"2025-06-27T23:44:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=13683"},"modified":"2025-06-27T19:22:20","modified_gmt":"2025-06-28T00:22:20","slug":"the-mk-ultra-interview-with-peter-steele-of-type-o-negative-from-issue-1-jan-feb-1995","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/?p=13683","title":{"rendered":"The MK ULTRA Interview with Peter Steele of TYPE O NEGATIVE from issue #1 Jan\/Feb 1995"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"461\" height=\"584\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-1-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13684\" style=\"width:407px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-1-1.png 461w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-1-1-237x300.png 237w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 461px) 100vw, 461px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE<\/strong> by Alex Zander with original artwork by Syd Edwards and transcribed by Jason Harmon<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This interview originally appeared in M.K. ULTRA #1. It was also reprinted in R.O.C. #18, which is available by writing to PO. Box 147, Jewett, OH 43986. The reason this is being reprinted in M.K. ULTRA #7, is that many readers of ours now never saw this wonderful story. This is how we got to know Peter Steele and Type O Negative. The into has remained the same, but the transcription now includes many questions and answers that weren\u2019t included in the original draft. This was conducted backstage at Star Lake Amphitheater when Type O Negative opened for Kings X and Motley Crue. Tommy Lee from Crue was there for a short time as we met the band that became my personal favorite.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Readers: This article was conducted July 30, 1994. After it was deemed too explicit, its contents were censored, edited and slaughtered. Because of this, what you are about to read is the word for word conversation with Peter Steele. And because of its contents, this is one reason why Mr. Steele is M.K. ULTRA Magazines&nbsp; Male Artist of 1994. Enjoy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They have been called Sisters Of Mercy meets Danzig meets Destroyer-era KISS. They\u2019ve been labeled racist. Fascist. Pro rape. Sexist and suicidal. At some point they\u2019ve been called anything from beautiful to repulsive. And depending on your views, they are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I consider them to be  are dark and brilliant. My friend Justin turned me onto TON. He liked their debut, Slow Deep &amp; Hard, a collection of Hardcore songs that many consider to be misogynist. The songs were written in four hours by singer \/ bassist Steele while he was drunk and dealing with a relationship that had turned sour. Songs that boasted verses like, \u201cI know you\u2019re fucking someone else.\u201d were recorded as a demo but released as a debut by Roadrunner Records. Steele\u2019s interpretation of this release went like this, \u201cAnybody who has had their heart broken can relate to what I\u2019m saying. I just happen to be born male and some of the language I used on the record is considered sexist. I don\u2019t think every woman is a bitch or a slut. Its only that I love women so much that I let them cause me so much pain.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Justin knew that I\u2019d like TON because their latest effort Bloody Kisses reflects vocals that he knew would remind me of Sisters Of Mercy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I then first witnessed Type O at Graffiti last Spring. They were rude, drunk (Steele reportedly drank 22 Coronas during the set) and offensive. In turn, they played one of the best shows that had passed through the Steel City in recent memory.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The second coming of the troupe was at Star Lake as opener for the new and unimproved Motley Crue. Of the four bands on the bill, Type O was the only one with any positive press and they played a mere four song set. Yet the four songs lasted forty-five minutes. The average life-span of a TON song is seven to ten minutes.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"456\" height=\"582\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-PS-INTERVIEW-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13685\" style=\"width:366px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-PS-INTERVIEW-1.png 456w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/MK-PS-INTERVIEW-1-235x300.png 235w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 456px) 100vw, 456px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Bloody Kisses boasts over seventy minutes of true, intense and emotional Goth as it hasn\u2019t been played in years. The CD is now available in a newly packaged CD with a previously unreleased track \u201cSuspended in Dark.\u201d which is a vampire\u2019s confession. Other songs, such as the single, \u201cChristian Woman,\u201d is a tale of a fifteen-year-old girl who, being Christian, was told sex is \u201cbad.\u201d She goes to sleep every night looking at the near naked body of the son of God on a crucifix, until she eventually begins to have sexual fantasies about him. Another single, \u201cBlack #1 (Little Miss Scare-All),\u201d is an ode to a Goth girl Pete once dated. \u201cShe was so into herself,\u201d he recalls, \u201cshe once had me hold a mirror over my face so she could see herself climax.\u201d The title track, \u201cBloody Kisses,\u201d is a modern-day Romeo and Juliet. You can almost hear the singer\u2019s heart beat as he whispers, \u201cA crimson pool so warm and deep\/lulls me to an endless sleep\/take your hand in mine\/I will be brave\/take me from this earth\/an endless night\/this, the end of life.\u201d Add in a reworking of Seals and Crofts classic, \u201cSummer Breeze.\u201d and you have a collection of suicide anthems, loneliness and beautiful blasphemy. It is the most honest expression this side of Nine Inch Nails and Trent Reznor actually picked them himself to open the first leg of the NIN tour. So did Crue, as did Danzig and now they\u2019re heading out with Pantera.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On December 4, 1994, I again talked to Type O on a cold and rainy night in Columbus, Ohio, and I found that they would not be home for the holidays since CD sales had increased &#8211; therefore so did concert dates. Drummer Johnny Kelly begs, \u201cPlease quit buying it so we can go home!\u201d Nevertheless, they keep working.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roadrunner recently released a video \/ CD package of music available at about $15.00. They also include a rendition of \u201cBlack Sabbath\u201d on the Black Sabbath tribute collection, Nativity In Black. I was also informed that they just recorded soundtrack music for a vampire movie called \u201cThe Addiction,\u201d due out later this year.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The following is a transcript of my conversation with Peter Steele, the near seven foot tall Lerch of a vocalist last summer, in the company of band members and Tommy Lee. We talked about sex, suicide, bad press, and Pete\u2019s desire to disappear into the woods of Iceland and live with the wolves.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>What magazine is this for?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> Rock Out Censorship and a Goth \u2018zine called 3rd Nail. (3rd Nail refused to print the interview after they decided Type O was making a mockery of Goth). Peter sees the tattoo on my right shoulder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Is that a Sisters of Mercy tattoo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: That\u2019s my favorite band. Actually, its my undying love for the Sisters that turned me onto your music. (Lots of noise in the background. The band is getting restless to buy beer on Sunday in Pennsylvania)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>QUIET!!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Mike, the tour manager asks me where they can buy beer. Obviously the band wasn\u2019t accommodated by the venue for their needs)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> West Virginia is five miles away. You can buy alcohol there<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong><strong>: <\/strong>West Vagina?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> The first thing people ask me about Type O is, are they serious? Are you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> We are completely unserious. I mean, as you see, I say a lot of like, cornball stuff onstage, and off. We definitely don\u2019t take ourselves as serious as people seem to think we do. You know, this is what it\u2019s like. It\u2019s not so much that we\u2019re trying to sell albums. We like slow music. We like emotional music. So, we will never become trendoids. I can only speak for myself.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(The boys are laughing it up in the background. Kenny Hickey (guitarist) speaks up)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kenny: <\/strong>He speaks for me as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>A few years ago a review of Slow, Deep &amp; Hard (Type O\u2019s first LP) in Alternative Press (written by David M. Earle) said something to the effect that, \u201cif Type O Negative is serious, they should rot in the maggot filled earth that their lives are. They should be castrated and be cooked alive with their genitals shoved in their mouths.\u201d How does negative press like that affect the band?<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong><strong>:<\/strong> Sells albums. Negative press is better than none. (At this point Steele\u2019s voice goes from calm to furious as his eyes widen and bulge out as his face turns red in rage.) And, I\u2019d like to point out that I wish the person that said that would say it to my face because I would ram my fucking genitals down his throat. (It quiets down. Kenny yells something out.) This is serious Ken! Anybody that ever slams this band never has the balls to say it to my face. NEVER! It\u2019s always some dick 5,000 miles away with a big mouth, and I will catch each and every one of them and kill them with a fuckin\u2019 Bic pen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tommy Lee:<\/strong> There are some questions you just don\u2019t ask!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: (continues) The pen is mightier than the sword. Suck my fuckin\u2019 dick you fuckin\u2019 cunt. I don\u2019t care about fightin\u2019. If I lose a fight, no fuckin\u2019 big deal. I\u2019ve got a lot of blood to shed. Politically Correct Fucking Cunts. Sorry Alex.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"771\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1-1024x771.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13686\" style=\"width:688px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1-1024x771.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1-768x578.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1-1536x1157.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Good-Peter-Quote-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: That\u2019s okay. This is the kinda stuff I want on tape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kenny:<\/strong> I wanna beat that guy up in front of his family.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> For those who don\u2019t know, why did Type O Negative stir up so much controversy in Europe?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I did an interview one time with a German magazine over there and they were asking me how popular I thought Type O Negative were becoming in Europe. I said, at this point I think Type O Negative is more popular in Germany than Adolf Hitler. And it was pretty much the same thing John Lennon said about Jesus Christ. I thought I was being a funny guy, \u2018cause I am actually funny. But, they don\u2019t get it there. (Mocking a German accent), \u201cAh. Oh. So you are a fascist Mr. Steele!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: Is it true you were threatened?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: All true. There were protests, bomb threats and riots, and it was great because it just sold albums for us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: What about your label?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: True. They got bomb threats as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: Why the change of attitude between Slow Deep &amp; Hard and Bloody Kisses?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I think that three years would do the trick. We kinda grew up. We didn\u2019t listen to hardcore anymore, and shit like that. And, when the band first got together, I guess it\u2019s safe to say was in the ashes of my former band, Carnivore. So, we had to do a demo really quick and I pretty much wrote these songs in one night. So, it was like hardcore and sludge and shit like that.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: You sound almost as though you regret that album.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I do because it was only supposed to be a demo. I was drunk and pissed and wrote that whole thing in four hours. Little did I know that demo would be pressed into an album. So, we were pretty much trapped into something I wrote in the span of of a few hours. That\u2019s why there\u2019s such a gap between Slow Deep &amp; Hard and Bloody Kisses. If I had to do it over, Bloody Kisses would be the first album. I gave the world a really warped idea of what Type O Negative is.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"559\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-QUOTE-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13687\" style=\"width:384px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-QUOTE-1.png 460w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/PETER-QUOTE-1-247x300.png 247w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: One time you were quoted as saying, \u201cI don\u2019t think people who commit suicide are cowards. I think they are heroes, because they are taking a journey that nobody has come back from and nobody knows what\u2019s there.\u201d Do you condor Kurt Cobain a hero?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Yes. I do, actually. Yeah, I just wish he\u2019d remembered to write me into his will, but you know, forgive and forget right Johnny?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Johnny Kelly: <\/strong>(drummer) I hear ya!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex<\/strong>: Do you consider suicide a solution?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: Definitely. I don\u2019t think life is sacred. I think that life is pretty much a waste of time, and part of being successful of anything is knowing when to bow out. I will never die of colon cancer or heart disease or a fucking brain tumor. When I become useless by my own standards, when I cannot function as a man, I\u2019m going to take a swan dive off the World Trade Center\u2026hopefully onto someone I hate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Josh Silver: <\/strong>(keyboards) Next time he does it, I\u2019m going to do it for him.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> What kept you from succeeding in your suicide attempt?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter<\/strong>: I didn\u2019t cut deep enough.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> When you reflect on it, how do you feel now?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> Well\u2026 (long pause &#8211; deep breath) it was a symbolic death. The person I was is certainly gone. I don\u2019t consider myself yay person anymore. See. Here are the scars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Peter shows me his scars on his wrists. They are across the vein, instead of along it.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>You have to cut vertically on the vein (I demonstrate).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>That\u2019s what everyone tells me.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Some people, because of your band\u2019s name, have interpreted you as pro rape. How do you feel about rape, date rape and marital rape?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Oh God, that\u2019s a complex question. One that I\u2019ve never given any thought to. Personally\u2026when I am with a woman, what gives me pleasure is knowing she wants me. I would never force anybody to do anything. I don\u2019t have to prove that I am a man and that I have to jump on her and fuck her brains out. If she jumps on me and fucks my brains out, that\u2019s the ultimate compliment. So, I wait until that happens. I would never force anybody to do anything\u2026I mean, look at the fuckin\u2019 callouses on my hands.Do you think that\u2019s from working out? No, it\u2019s from jerking off. (He points to Josh) Look at the callouses on his feet. (Josh puts up his feet up and makes a high pitch whirling sound)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong> That\u2019s from jerking him off!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Athletes\u2019 dick!!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Very loud laughter all around)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tommy Lee, who doesn\u2019t jerk off, exits.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong> The woman you wrote about in the song, \u201cBlood &amp; Fire\u201d, you mentioned once experimented on you with those two elements, Can you explain how?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> Well, she was very much into cutting herself and cutting me. She was a female pyromaniac and every time she saw a fire, her pussy got wet. So, it was great around dinner time, sa she was cooking supper.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>What about \u201cBlack #1?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> It\u2019s an ode to a Goth girl who was so into herself that she once held a mirror over my face so she could see herself climax.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>And who is the \u201cChristian Woman?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>\u201cChristian Woman\u201d is the tale of a fifteen-year-old girl who, being Catholic, was told sex is bad. So, she goes to sleep every night looking at a half naked son of God on a crucifix until she eventually begins ti have sexual fantasies about him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Did you intend to make an album that sounds so good?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>&nbsp;Well, I take it you\u2019re implying that the album is good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>That\u2019s my opinion as a critic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter:<\/strong> Every time I hear this album, I hear error. I hear things that are out of tune. I hear things that I wished I had done differently. I hear songs that are too long and boring. Uh, the next LP, which I think will be to Bloody Kisses to what Bloody Kisses is to Slow Deep &amp; Hard. Um, and I would think it is probably gonna be 40% psychedelic, 40% Goth and 10% industrial. Maybe a little sprinkling of big band music in there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Have the comparisons to Andrew Eldrich flattered you or offended you or both?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Well, it certainly flatters me. However, I never meant to sound like him. Maybe he\u2019s trying to sound like me\u2026I don\u2019t know. Whenever you start to become successful, in publicist terms, they try to describe you by comparing you to things people know very well. So, you\u2019re always going to be compared to something.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex:<\/strong><strong> <\/strong>Other than The Beatles, where else does Type O Negative draw musical influences from?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>&nbsp;I guess it\u2019s obvious I should say Black Sabbath. Although, it\u2019s very trendy to say that now. i write songs and pretty much let the guys add in what they wants long as it doesn\u2019t take away from the main idea of the song. But the band is influenced by Sabbath, Beatles, 60\u2019s psychedelic music, Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Judas Priest,&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>AC\/DC, all the way up to Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance. Everything I listen to influences me.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>&nbsp;What about your original version of \u201cSummer Breeze\u201d (Which was titled \u201cSummer Girl\u201d)? Is your version of the song ever going to surface?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>That\u2019s a very hard question to answer. I mean, I would like to see the original version of \u201cSummer Breeze\u201d be reissued, simply because we could just rip off the public again. Give them something that\u2019s already ready, with just different lyrics. But, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s going to happen because there hasn\u2019t been any talk of it lately.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Are you anxious to get back to Europe?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Yes, because as you know, we have problems over there. I\u2019m the type of person that when a problem exists I have to rectify it. It just eats at me. I really want to get over there and get it over with. I want to show people that I\u2019m really not who they think I am, that we\u2019re just here to play lousy music.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>You\u2019ve said in the past you would like to get away from everyone and build a home in the woods of Iceland and life with the wolves. Is this something you still want to do, or are you going to become the next big thing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I\u2019ve learned to never say never. As much as I have to stick with what I say, I may have to change my mind. I would still like to leave with a woman I feel I could spend the rest of my life with and spend our days pleasuring each other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>How was the tour with Nine Inch Nails?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>The band will certainly disagree with me\u2026As much as Nine Inch Nails treated us very well, their audience did not. As the band\u2019s spokesman, I did not have a good time on stage. I felt more like Andrew Dice Clay than Peter Steele. I was just up there insulting people. They were this trendy, grungy, industrial crowd that just wanted to hear 120 beats per minute, not 20 beats per minute &#8211; which we play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Anybody that listens to the lyrics would understand that Type O Negative and Nine Inch Nails are the ideal combo for a tour!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Well, yeah. I think Trent &#8211; when he requested us to go on tour &#8211; had sensed the emotion of the band. I mean, Nine Inch Nails is a very emotional band, which I can respect because I feel the same way. But, unfortunately, I think the audience is more narrow-minded than Reznor thought they would be, and just did not pick up on that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>On this tour with Motley Crue, Type O Negative is the only band really getting positive press about the set. How\u2019d you end up opening for these guys?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>Apparently, they requested us. They had picked up the Bloody Kisses CD and saw us with Nine Inch Nails and liked what they saw. I was a complete scumbag onstage. I was telling people what I thought and maybe they respected that.bYou know, we\u2019re not trying to be anything but ourselves. But, that\u2019s really hard because we don\u2019t even know who we are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Iggy Pop told me that the strangest thing that he\u2019d been hit with onstage was the fist of a seven-foot mountain man. what\u2019s the most fucked up thing you\u2019ve been hit with?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>&nbsp;A used tampon<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>That\u2019s not so bad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>It hit me in the eye. I\u2019ve been hit with bottles of course, and lit cigarettes. It hasn\u2019t been that bad. No cinder blocks. So, I\u2019ve lived through it all.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>So, what\u2019s going to happen after this tour?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>I had a meeting with the label last week and asked them when they wanted a new product. They said by next September, in \u201995. The problem with that is when are we going to record this thing? Spring or Summer? But that\u2019s touring season, so I\u2019d rather record around Christmas season, hopefully get the thing rolling for summer review. So, I\u2019d like to come out with a new product. I\u2019d like to play the U.S. some more, then Europe, be home for the holidays. I really care about my parents very much and I\u2019d like to spend the holidays with them and my girlfriend.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>Are you snd Josh going to produce the next LP or hire from the outside?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Peter: <\/strong>&nbsp;Well, Josh and I work very close together. Josh has a lot of recording experience. He\u2019s a technician. I\u2019m the guy with the ideas, and he helps me realize what I have in my head. So, I don\u2019t think we\u2019ll hire out because we\u2019re too cheap.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Alex: <\/strong>I think the production on Bloody Kisses is phenomenal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br><strong>Peter: <\/strong>You should be familiar with Lycia. It\u2019s dark, ambient Goth music. The last album is called A Day in the Stark Corner. I would like our next album to sound something like this. It is the most depressing thing I\u2019ve ever heard in my life. If I put it on in the morning when I get up\u2026I\u2019m useless for the rest of the day. It makes me feel like killing myself. It\u2019s like, why even bother getting dressed hen I can just slit my wrists. Such simple hypnotic beats. Everything in drowned in reverb, yet the emotion comes through so loud and clear. It\u2019s just devastatingly beautiful, as beautiful as it is devastating. That\u2019s how I want it to come through.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"467\" height=\"627\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-RED-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-RED-1.png 467w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-RED-1-223x300.png 223w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 467px) 100vw, 467px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">LYCIA Press release from projekt records 1995 quoting MK ULTRA issue #1<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"379\" height=\"613\" src=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13701\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-1.png 379w, https:\/\/mkultramagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/LYCIA-AD-1-185x300.png 185w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 379px) 100vw, 379px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">LYCIA order form from projekt records 1995 quoting MK ULTRA issue #1<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE by Alex Zander with original artwork by Syd Edwards and transcribed by Jason Harmon Editor&#8217;s Note: This interview originally appeared in M.K. ULTRA #1. It was also reprinted in R.O.C. #18, which is available by writing to PO. Box 147, Jewett, OH 43986. 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